Maybe VR isn't dead after all... - Valve Index Review

  • Published: 12 August 2019
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Comments • 6 451

  • Phillipe
    Phillipe  1 weeks back

    Oculus Rift S, anyone? Linus forgot to mention it entirely!!!!!!! No need for extra cameras at all, for $ 400, it’s a good VR headset...

    • bp968
      bp968  10 hours back

      The Oculus S doesn't have proper ocular adjustments. Its fine if it works for your eyes, but if it doesn't work there is no adjustment to fix it.

      To make the whole things even stupider they put the proper adjustments on the Quest headset.

    • Seth S.
      Seth S.  11 hours back

      @Zenroy yeah wmr is

    • jake fever
      jake fever  1 days back

      @Linus Tech Tips what about the oculus quest

    • Robert Guerra
      Robert Guerra  1 days back

      and he does mention the rift a little bit 6:29

    • Robert Guerra
      Robert Guerra  1 days back

      yea but you dont get room scale and precision tracking like you do with the valve

  • Houssam Chakir
    Houssam Chakir  1 minutes back

    cats add 83% of video quality to a video

    • Ee21k
      Ee21k  31 minutes back


      • Jacob chamberlain
        Jacob chamberlain  2 hours back

        lol12:00 wish it was a strap-on experience mmm don't want to play that VR game

        • killercivic2001
          killercivic2001  2 hours back

          THIS video brought to you by "the answer to 'you are a youtube star but your room screams loner scrooge' company"...
          fun vid as always ;)

          Also... OMG a... LYNX comes with the Valve set !!!

          • Rude Nick
            Rude Nick  3 hours back

            strap-on experience XD

            • Naoise Doran
              Naoise Doran  3 hours back

              Your 5 year old daughter gets to use a 1000 dollar headset wow I wish you were my dad

              • Naoise Doran
                Naoise Doran  3 hours back


                • spazman8675309
                  spazman8675309  4 hours back

                  12:46 censors left middle finger
                  Also 12:46 doesn't censor right middle finger

                  • Berto Andon
                    Berto Andon  5 hours back

                    It even comes with a cat!

                    • angryweaponx
                      angryweaponx  5 hours back

                      Anyone else with a Vive Pro and v1 accessories with buyer's remorse?

                      • Mgsgta3
                        Mgsgta3  6 hours back

                        I dont know if its because he is at home and more comfortable/relaxed or what but he's a lot more chill/genuine seeming in this video. It makes it a lot more watchable overall(that sounds mean but I mean it in a good way)

                        • Big Dubyuh
                          Big Dubyuh  7 hours back

                          that cat looked so fake lol

                          • Ivan Irving
                            Ivan Irving  8 hours back

                            I have the same sword.

                            • CanadianLoki76
                              CanadianLoki76  8 hours back

                              12:02 lol, you want a strap-on experience.. Linus you shouldn't talk about your bedroom preferences on YouTube. Ha ha..

                              • Eragonnogare
                                Eragonnogare  9 hours back

                                For the most out of the finger tracking, things like valves own hand lab are the best, as we move forward it will almost definitely improve across the board, but that really shows some of the potential. Fully new games developed with the index in mind will be truly amazing.

                                • Yogurt Banana
                                  Yogurt Banana  10 hours back

                                  Gotta love cats

                                  • A K
                                    A K  10 hours back

                                    exercise for inside dwellers?

                                    • Lacto
                                      Lacto  10 hours back

                                      I've never used VR sets. Is PS VR for PS4 Slim still worth? I want to use it just for games like vr chat.

                                      • Thicc Boiii
                                        Thicc Boiii  11 hours back

                                        I definitely respect that this type of tech exists but this is 100000% not what I am looking for after a day's work. Mostly still seems like a proof of concept/tech demo whenever I see these. I do not even think that the ultimate, logical landing point for this type of tech will be video games. Maybe I am in the minority on that but this tech will always seem insanely niche to me.

                                        • Zac
                                          Zac  11 hours back

                                          So odd that I vaguely get some sense of motion sickness watching this. Arizona sunshine on psvr is to blame for that.

                                          • THE MAD TECHIE
                                            THE MAD TECHIE  11 hours back

                                            WOW the new headset comes with a Cat!

                                            • THE MAD TECHIE
                                              THE MAD TECHIE  11 hours back

                                              Sword on mantle needs to be turned around and flipped over , samurai swords should rest on spine in saya not edge and handle should be to the left. (Because Samurai were trained right handed it is considered welcoming to display a sword with handle to the left and confrontational to put handle to the right , unless its a time of war. Are you or the nation of Canada at war?) :)

                                              • sharpenednoodles
                                                sharpenednoodles  12 hours back

                                                >Valve Index review
                                                >Doesn't play boneworks

                                                • James C
                                                  James C  12 hours back

                                                  It would be entirely worth it to see a flight Sim centric edition of this review. DCS World

                                                  • WillieRants
                                                    WillieRants  12 hours back

                                                    What plugs into the light houses? Just a 2-wire DC connection or does it also require USB and/or other? How close or far away can the light houses be for say larger/smaller rooms?

                                                    • zmc33
                                                      zmc33  12 hours back

                                                      a 'strap on experience'. lol 12:02

                                                      • James C
                                                        James C  12 hours back

                                                        "strap-on experience" @12:00 Maybe a new game title idea.

                                                        • Steffen R.
                                                          Steffen R.  12 hours back

                                                          i think the rift s is the much better deal

                                                          • Fleetmenace
                                                            Fleetmenace  12 hours back

                                                            4,3,2,1 we are vr, brought back so many memories

                                                            • Nyran Stanton
                                                              Nyran Stanton  13 hours back

                                                              VR is miles away from anything i wan tto have a go at yet. But its cool its getting there eventually. Im surprised you didnt try Skyrim VR or DOOM VR.

                                                              • Saltiboii
                                                                Saltiboii  13 hours back

                                                                13:07 security down bois

                                                                • Mina Haroun
                                                                  Mina Haroun  13 hours back

                                                                  I Have a Asus 14" laptop with 1070 q card. I take my Oculus Rift S everywhere and set up in seconds. I take it to parties, i take it between my place and my friends and parents. All i have to do is plug in usb3 and dport via usbc and tell it forward direction and optionally draw a border to my game area. It takes 3min at most and I'm playing VR anywhere.

                                                                  • Spicy Meatball
                                                                    Spicy Meatball  13 hours back

                                                                    *Linus 2019:* I still do wish that it was more of a _strap on_ experience. 11:55

                                                                    • Controls of Quality
                                                                      Controls of Quality  13 hours back

                                                                      Just ordered mine. Can't wait!

                                                                      • Impasta
                                                                        Impasta  14 hours back

                                                                        11:57 for a strapon experience

                                                                        • xXRedWolfXx
                                                                          xXRedWolfXx  15 hours back

                                                                          If you wish for a better Strap-On Experience, Ask your wife about "pegging".

                                                                          • Keter
                                                                            Keter  15 hours back

                                                                            Linus "I do wish it was more of a strap-on experience" tech tips

                                                                            • C B
                                                                              C B  15 hours back

                                                                              Does the cat get it's OWN headset to knock things onto the virtual floor during a game?

                                                                              • Mr. Blunt
                                                                                Mr. Blunt  15 hours back

                                                                                Man I’d kick my cats ass to its mouth if it dropped my expensive equipment like that. I’m old fashioned. Nowadays people call that abuse. Smh

                                                                                • BangGangEiskalt
                                                                                  BangGangEiskalt  15 hours back

                                                                                  Linus "strap-on experience" Sebastian

                                                                                  • Upwardtitan7624
                                                                                    Upwardtitan7624  16 hours back

                                                                                    13:13 that meow melted my heart

                                                                                    • DBA
                                                                                      DBA  16 hours back

                                                                                      your cat must really like boxes

                                                                                      • David Robinson
                                                                                        David Robinson  17 hours back

                                                                                        Cute cat. Dead cat!

                                                                                        • wee_man135
                                                                                          wee_man135  17 hours back

                                                                                          The Samsung HMD Odyssey Mixed Reality VR headset is my personal VR headset. It's never disappointed.

                                                                                          • Tohdom
                                                                                            Tohdom  17 hours back

                                                                                            wow. New technology to play the same stupid stand-still shooters? wow...

                                                                                            • Jared Bienz
                                                                                              Jared Bienz  17 hours back

                                                                                              Hey Linus. If your wife is having motion sickness issues I highly recommend spending some time evaluating your graphics pipeline. I recently got an Index myself and started having motion sickness again (though I hadn't experienced it since my original DK2). And personally, I'm running a 1080 TI.

                                                                                              Some things I recommend you try:

                                                                                              1. Get an app called fpsVR from Steam and run it before the game. Check to make sure your frame rates really are what you think they are. Some of the tech in SteamVR can make you think there are more frames than they are, but this tech can also wreak havoc on those that suffer from simulator sickness.
                                                                                              2. Open Steam VR settings and pay attention to the performance metrics. Especially pay attention to Reprojection and Motion Smoothing. If your rig is not able to keep up with the refresh rate of the display (90, 120 or 144) it will drop into one of these two modes.
                                                                                              3. Reprojection is the worst because it's having to reuse old frames. This is also seen as Judder. But I personally believe that even Motion Smoothing was making me sick. Motion Smoothing tries to create new frames based on path prediction. But if, for example, you quickly turn your head, you may end up with a frame drawn on the predicted path rather than the actual path. I believe this is what was making me sick. I recommend turning Motion Smoothing OFF and reducing your quality settings until you hit the target frame rate.
                                                                                              4. Check your quality settings. Both under the Frame Timing AND under the Application tab. If Frame Timing is 150% (the default recommended value for the Valve Index, BTW), all games will run at 150% even if their Application settings are at 100%. My 1080 TI was struggling to keep up with the default 150% metric, which was dropping it into Motion Smoothing. Again, I recommend turning OFF Motion Smoothing and turning your quality settings down (in-game, in the Steam VR settings or both) until your hardware can hit the target without assitance.
                                                                                              5. Pick the right balance between 120 Hz and 144 Hz. 144 Hz will help with simulator sickness but at the cost of visual fidelity. If your wife is especially susceptible you might want to choose 144 Hz over the graphics quality. But that will be a balance that's up to her.
                                                                                              6. Consider a graphics card upgrade. I will be switching to a 2080 TI soon, but even the much cheaper 2080 Super would allow you to render significantly more visual fidelity while also maintaining 144 Hz.

                                                                                              Best of luck. I feel her pain, so do let us know what you find and I hope she's able to enjoy VR soon without the sickness!

                                                                                              • Joshua
                                                                                                Joshua  17 hours back

                                                                                                Linus got the wii u